Foam encapsulated pocket springs is a term you may see on many different products as the merge between traditional and more modern mattress materials takes place. There is no one type of FEPS and so again a clear explanation of what FEPS are and how they behave is needed.
FEPS are simply pocket springs that are encased in a foam box. They are encased in a foam box to ensure they keep their position, don’t migtrate or slip. Cheaper FEPS will only have a foam tray, where the top of the springs meet directly with the Memory, Hybrid of Latex foam. This is a cheap means of FEPS which over time will damage the Memory, Hybrid or Latex layer as these foams are not manufactured to withstand stress from springs. You want to avoid these types of FEPS.
We have three FEPS models. The Hybrid 6, Hybrid 7 and the Latex Fusion Zero Model.
A quality FEPS unit will be entirely encased in a firm PU foam to ensure the springs don’t directly touch the expensive comfort layers of the mattress.
How do I compare FEPS? The spring count is often used by manufacturers to claim their FEPS are better than others. 1500 pocket springs is better than 1000 isnt it? Not necessarily. It all depends on the size, gauge and style of spring used. A mattress with more springs can in fact be softer or less stable than one with fewer pocket springs. The bottom line is the number itself does not dictate the quality, you need much more information.
What FEPS do John Ryan Use? We use 1000 pocket spring units in our Contemporary range. This is based on a king size. The springs are a medium tension, 3 turn barrel spring. They are individually encased and then held in the FEPS foam box meaning they can’t migrate. It also gives a consistent feel to the mattress. We are members of the Institute of Spring Technology and have had our springs independently tested to confirm the tension and suitability of the springs for our mattress range. For a more detailed look at spring technology please see Johns excellent post here.

Octasprings and Springs-made-from-Foam – There has been a number of innovations in the last few years around FEPS and there is even a spring made from foam out on the market. These mattresses have developed either springs or coils out of foam to be used instead of traditional pocket springs.
Many people often contact us and ask ‘What is an octaspring‘ followed by ‘Do you sell Octasprings?’. Octasprings are probably the most commercially known of the foam springs and have been out for a few years. Their advertising states they are cooler than solid memory foam as there are air gaps between the coils which helps reduce temperature. Our view is that this maybe a clear benefit but given the price of Octasprings you maybe better off with a traditional pocket sprung FEP or traditional pocket sprung mattress if heat is an issue. Memory foam will always be warmer than natural materials so even making springs out of foam does not remove their heat retentive nature. The newness of these products also means there are no long term testimonials of the products shelf life or duration so it’s hard to comment on this. We don’t use Octasprings as they are a proprietary foam spring used by Dormeo only in their mattresses. Here at John Ryan Contemporary we are quite old fashioned that we only use tried and tested materials so we use high quality FEPs not foam springs. The picture below is of the Dormeo Octaspring range they use in their mattresses, the different coloured foams indicate different tensions of foam spring.
Springs made from foam have been around long before Octasprings though and Kay Metzler, a UK based foam manufacturers. Primarily these foam spring mattresses were marketed and sold in Germany and Europe. They never really look off in the UK, probably due to the high cost and therefore retail price. We have some of their early German prototype models which we have examined. Different densities of foam can be used to create different tensions of foam springs which is quite interesting. This has been the practice for traditional pocket springs since day one. The castellated foam on top would be the comfort layer that covers the foam springs giving a softer top layer.
Here is a cutaway of the foam springs Kay Metzler developed with replacing traditional foam springs.
An example of how the foam springs react under pressure, these springs are then covered in a top layer of softer foam, as the comfort layer, the cutaway is there for demonstrative purposes only.
They are of a high quality but given the high cost we are not convinced they offer any benefit over and above a traditional pocket spring, more innovation than necessity. Given that metal springs have been used for a century now for a huge range of uses, we are not sure why the use of foam now exceeds a high quality steel forged spring! This again maybe subjective and its upto the consumer to decide whether the overall comfort of a foam spring is more suitable that a traditional pocket spring.












Helen
hello
I have read the Which magazine report on mattresses and they recommend the Reylon pocket memory classic. Do you have anything similar?
My husband is 6ft3 and 11 1/2 stone and I am 5ft 4 and 9 1/2 stone. We need a superking mattress.
Many thanks
Hi Helen, The relyon pocket memory classic features a pocket sprung unit and 5cm of memory foam. We don’t have a direct comparison as our mattresses are all of a higher specification, and relyon don’t give any detail on the density or hardness of their memory foam.
I would advise however that because this is a non turn mattress you are only ever able to use one side, meaning its life span will be reduced. Most memory/hybrid foam mattresses are one sided due to the construction method. Our John Ryan Contemporary range all come with a matching removable turnable topper to remove this problem.
We have our hybrid 6 which is a medium feel for your weight which uses hybrid foams. The relyon only has 5cm of memory foam, which some people can find quite hot. Our hybrid 6 has 12cm overall, 7.5cm in the removable topper made of laygel, a synthetic latex equivalent, and 5cm of cool blue hybrid foam which is less heat retentive compared to memory foam. For your weights you would find this medium support with a softer comfort layer on the top thanks to the laygel.
If you have a look here you can see the full listing for the product. It’s a much higher specification mattress than the one you have looked at which is why it is more expensive.- Lee
Carol
Hi There,
We are looking at buying a zip bed individual size of 3 foot by 6 foot 3inches x 2 my wife is 10 stone and I am 16 stone can you advise on mattress tension ie 1500 pocket spring is it suitable and what is in it . Or have you any advice price wise 800 to 1100 .
Regards Carol
Hi Carol, Thanks for getting in touch. You’re looking for an Extra-king zip and link mattress to achieve that size. In the contemporary range we don’t do zip & links we can do bespoke parings of some of our range as a bespoke offering. You would need to look at our John Ryan By Design range of traditional mattresses. Now based on your weights, you at 10 stone are on the boundary between a soft or a medium spring and your partner is on the cusp of a medium or firm spring. It depends what kind of tension you both prefer. It could be a matching medium is best but we’d need to speak to you ideally to find this out.
We would also need to know what base it is going on as a slatted base will make the artisans feel firmer than say a sprung edge base.
Out of the range the Artisan 1500 would be the model that allows dual tensions and is in the top end of your price point at £1125 for the two mattresses without bases. Theres no models within your budget beneath this I’m afraid.
If you can give us a call Carol to discuss further then we can provide some more tailored advice. – Lee
Patrick
You have an excellent web-site (both the contemporary and non-contemporary one). I am looking for an equivalent of the Salus Memory Pocket 1500. My wife and I have slept on this mattress numerous times at my wife’s parent’s and really like it. It is available here:
http://www.bestpricebeds.co.uk/salus-memory-pocket-1500-divan-bed-pid4816.html
On your page here, you say that you have a FEPS:
http://www.johnryancontemporary.co.uk/need-to-know-about/foam-encapsulated-pocket-springs-feps/
I just can’t find it on your website anywhere!
Can you point me to the right place on your web-page for your FEPS, and a similar product to the Salus Memory Pocket? Will also call you to discuss further.
thanks.
Many thanks for your praise of our sites, we do our best to be one of the most comprehensive mattress sites out there. I’ve seen the mattress you’ve tried and tested but the problem is it doesn’t give me any density or tension for the springs. Based on my database of mattress specs it is listed as regular tension, which equates to a medium. So that helps us get closer to assuming its medium springs and a medium memory foam.
Our Hybrid 6 and 7 are our FEPS mattresses to compare to. Our mattresses are far deeper than the sales range being 32.5cm deep. The Hybrid 7 is probably the nearest comparator for you which uses cool blue a hybrid foam, a more advanced version of memory foam. Coolblue is 70kg in density and slightly more responsive than memory foam. We have video guides on our site to show the difference between memory foam and cool blue foam. It also has medium gauge barrel springs, 1000 in a kingsize. There are only so many springs you can fit in a mattress so the 1500 in the sales would equate to smaller springs.
Our mattress is a higher spec than the one you’ve tried as it has a matching removable topper which allows you to turn the topper. Also hybrid foam is a higher quality foam compared to standard memory foam. All memory foam mattresses are one sided by their nature which is the biggest draw back. We use our dual construction method so you can turn the topper and increase the longevity of your mattress. – I hope that helps Patrick! – Lee
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Hello,
Stumbled across your website and have spent the last few days wading through all the info. Thanks, some of it is very helpful.
I’ve been looking at;
[Link to Costco – Octaspring]
Please could you advise a similar setup including contemporary divan and headboard? Oh in super king!
I am 12.5 stone and my wife is 11.5 stone. I am a side, back and front sleeper and my wife a side sleeper.
I would be grateful of any suggestions. Please tell me a lead time, no mad rush.
Hi Jordon, I’ll need some more information about what you’re really looking for before I can provide any recommendations. As you can see from the Octaspring it doesn’t state anywhere what the tension or density of the foam and or springs are which makes it incredibly hard for me to try and make a comparison.
Octasprings are one of the newer styles of pocket springs, made entirely from foam. I’m a bit uncertain about them as I wonder what the actual real life testing on them is. I did investigate some similar foam springs from Germany years ago but wasn’t sold as I didn’t think the high cost made any real difference when compared to the traditional pocket springs. So we have never incorporated them. I have tried a few Octaspring mattresses and they all seem to be of a medium tension, I’m not sure about their longevity though.
If you can let me know what tension of mattress you are looking for and in particular what kind of sensation, ie slow sink of memory foam or responsiveness of a hybrid foam, ie one that bounces back quickly. We do have a medium pocket sprung hybrid mattress which maybe suitable, the Hybrid 7 it does depend on how firm you want the bed to be Jordan! I’m guessing from your weights that you don’t want a super solid firm mattress. Hybrid foams are excellent for pressure relief and moulding to your body which should suit your side back and front style!
We do offer bases in an array of colours and headboard styles, please have a look here for an idea. I think headboard 4 matches closely the option you have seen with the Octaspring. We offer either 2 or 4 drawers on is size of base and the fabrics we use can be seen here. The price for a sprung edge Artisan divan is £635. The octaspring divan looks like a platform top divan which isn’t sprung edged, I think they would state if it was sprung edge which is why I make this assumption. Sprung edged divans offer a further progressive feel to the bed you can always choose a standard platform top divan from our Origins range but these come in a white quilted material, and are cheaper than the sprung edged advanced artisan range and not coloured textured material like the Artisan range.
The lead time for our beds is 4 weeks and they are all made to order here in the UK. If you have any further questions please get in touch directly. Thanks Lee